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MSNBC host: Opposing gay marriage ‘an indicator of moral depravity’

MSNBC host: Opposing gay marriage ‘an indicator of moral depravity’

The December 23 edition of All In with Chris Hayes on MSNBC was a joyful one to watch.

Comedian guest Sam Seder brought up the topic of gay marriage by saying how difficult it must have been for an Iowa lesbian couple to have to wait for 72 years before they got married over the summer.

Hayes and his guests then expressed one after another how the US has already reached a tipping point and built a supportive consensus.

‘It fell like dominos,’ Seder said of the Defence of Marriage Act, before kicking it up a notch. ‘There seems to be a concession on some level from long-time opponents. Almost to a point where you see it leveraged about in places. You know, ISIS, you should see the way they don’t allow gay people to get married.’

Hayes was not content to let the conversation end just like that. The liberal politcal commentator went on to describe how the belief of marriage as a union between a man and a woman has become ‘an indicator of moral depravity.’

‘The persecution of gay people has now become a human rights violation and an indicator of moral depravity for people that conservatives want you to hate,’ he said.

The remarks, naturally, have angered the religious right. Newsbuster – a website that aims to combat ‘liberal media bias’ – describe them as a drive toward a secularist crusade in American politics.

The relevant transcript published by Newsbuster:

SAM SEDER, Majority Report: Over the summer, there were two – one was 90, one was 91 years old, women in Iowa, who finally, after 72 years in relationship got married together. And, um, that story stuck with me the whole year. I thought that was such a – imagine to wait 72 years.

TARA DOWDELL, MSNBC contributor: For anything.

CHRIS HAYES, host: And hopefully it wasn’t disappointing that first day.

SEDER: That, to me, was sort of illustrative of what has happened so quickly, it seems. I mean, obviously it’s been years in the making and it’s been an incredible struggle. But marriage equality is basically, we’re on the other side of that issue, you know.

DOWDELL: We hit the tipping point.

HAYES: And a year after, you know, the DOMA decision, and the Windsor (decision) came down last year. This year was the year in which all of these district courts and the appellate courts basically said, you know, this is not constitutional. You can’t –

SEDER: That’s right. Scalia’s own words, he predicted it and he was right. It fell like dominos. And it’s basically, it’s almost – there seems to be a concession on some level from long-time opponents. Almost to a point where you see it leveraged about in places. You know, ISIS, you should see the way they don’t allow gay people to get married.

HAYES:  Yes, I know, exactly! That’s exactly right. It has become an indicator of moral depravity. The persecution of gay people has now become a human rights violation and an indicator of moral depravity for people that conservatives want you to hate.

SEDER: Exactly.